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		<title>By: The Writer</title>
		<link>http://www.ian-rogers.com/journal/2006/09/18/the-happy-couple/comment-page-1/#comment-2208</link>
		<dc:creator>The Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair is fair. :) Thanks, Sam!

And yes, it does seem like everyone is getting married lately. We were just at a wedding last weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair is fair. :) Thanks, Sam!</p>
<p>And yes, it does seem like everyone is getting married lately. We were just at a wedding last weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: A writer, reloaded &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Aftermath</title>
		<link>http://www.ian-rogers.com/journal/2006/09/18/the-happy-couple/comment-page-1/#comment-2207</link>
		<dc:creator>A writer, reloaded &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Aftermath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Seems everyone is getting married lately. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Seems everyone is getting married lately. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hilliard</title>
		<link>http://www.ian-rogers.com/journal/2006/09/18/the-happy-couple/comment-page-1/#comment-2206</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Hilliard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 12:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, as stated I got it right the first time. ;)

However, since what&#039;s yours is hers and so forth, you can be gorgeous, too. If you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, as stated I got it right the first time. ;)</p>
<p>However, since what&#8217;s yours is hers and so forth, you can be gorgeous, too. If you like.</p>
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		<title>By: The Writer</title>
		<link>http://www.ian-rogers.com/journal/2006/09/18/the-happy-couple/comment-page-1/#comment-2201</link>
		<dc:creator>The Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 04:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Sam! And I&#039;ll be sure to pass on the compliment. I&#039;m sure you meant to say I&#039;m gorgeous, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Sam! And I&#8217;ll be sure to pass on the compliment. I&#8217;m sure you meant to say I&#8217;m gorgeous, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hilliard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Hilliard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and by the way, Kat is gorgeous.

And congratulations to you both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and by the way, Kat is gorgeous.</p>
<p>And congratulations to you both.</p>
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		<title>By: The Writer</title>
		<link>http://www.ian-rogers.com/journal/2006/09/18/the-happy-couple/comment-page-1/#comment-2196</link>
		<dc:creator>The Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked out the editor&#039;s blog this morning, and he&#039;s almost reached the 50% mark. So it looks like &lt;em&gt;Apex&lt;/em&gt; might end up squeezing by after all. Good for them. 

Have fun at that con and tell me how it was when you get back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked out the editor&#8217;s blog this morning, and he&#8217;s almost reached the 50% mark. So it looks like <em>Apex</em> might end up squeezing by after all. Good for them. </p>
<p>Have fun at that con and tell me how it was when you get back!</p>
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		<title>By: AllyBird</title>
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		<dc:creator>AllyBird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My rejection was from Clarkesworld but I didn&#039;t agree with the comments - sometimes I do though and act on them.
I have a subscription with Apex and I hope they pick up the 200 but that is a lot in the small press world.
Going to FSCon tomorrow and I am more nervous than yesterday. I don&#039;t have a good memory for some things and I&#039;m thinking I might get lost in a conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My rejection was from Clarkesworld but I didn&#8217;t agree with the comments &#8211; sometimes I do though and act on them.<br />
I have a subscription with Apex and I hope they pick up the 200 but that is a lot in the small press world.<br />
Going to FSCon tomorrow and I am more nervous than yesterday. I don&#8217;t have a good memory for some things and I&#8217;m thinking I might get lost in a conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: The Writer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some good boards out there -- I just don&#039;t have time for them all. I saw one once where a guy was talking about how he had a crappy night job that kept him from writing because he does his best writing at night. This fella also had over a 1,000 message posts to his name, and I couldn&#039;t help but think that maybe that had something to do with it, too. :) But we all have to decide where our priorities lie. And I still post occasionally on the ESP board and the 1018 Press board.

I got a rejection yesterday, as well, from &lt;em&gt;Clarkesworld Magazine&lt;/em&gt;. Some nice feedback, though, which is always useful. 

Speaking of mags, it looks like &lt;em&gt;Apex Science Fiction and Horror&lt;/em&gt; may be on its way to small-press heaven. The editor says he needs 200 new subscribers in order to pay off a debt to the printer, and I had to admit I just don&#039;t see that happening. It&#039;s not that &lt;em&gt;Apex&lt;/em&gt; is a bad mag (I once subscribed to it, and although I didn&#039;t care for the stories, the production values were top-notch), but 200 is a big number in the small-press world, and he needs it in two weeks! 

Fortunately, I don&#039;t have any stories sitting with them, so I don&#039;t have to worry about getting something accepted only to have the mag go belly-up. It happens, folks, quite often, and it&#039;s never a pretty picture. It is, in fact, the ultimate tease. &lt;em&gt;We love your story and we&#039;d love to publish it… buuuut, we&#039;re going out of business.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Apex&lt;/em&gt; does seem to be inching toward its goal, at least according to the editor&#039;s blog. The part I don&#039;t understand, though, are the visitors who are buying subscriptions although they have never seen the magazine before. I have never believed in the whole &lt;em&gt;Support the small press!&lt;/em&gt; battle-cry. I prefer to support the &lt;em&gt;good&lt;/em&gt; small press and let the bad stuff die its own death. This isn&#039;t the United Way, and mags shouldn&#039;t be blinded supported just because they need the support. If it&#039;s a quality publication with a strong following, the rally should come without fanfare (of course, one could say that if it’s a quality mag with a strong following, it shouldn&#039;t need the rally in the first place, but hey, shit happens). 

&lt;em&gt;Apex&lt;/em&gt; is a decent mag, even though I didn&#039;t happen to dig the content, so if anyone here likes science fiction, or sf-horror, they might want to check out their website and buy a subscription. 

(I figured I&#039;d mention this in the comments section rather than devote a whole journal entry to it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some good boards out there &#8212; I just don&#8217;t have time for them all. I saw one once where a guy was talking about how he had a crappy night job that kept him from writing because he does his best writing at night. This fella also had over a 1,000 message posts to his name, and I couldn&#8217;t help but think that maybe that had something to do with it, too. :) But we all have to decide where our priorities lie. And I still post occasionally on the ESP board and the 1018 Press board.</p>
<p>I got a rejection yesterday, as well, from <em>Clarkesworld Magazine</em>. Some nice feedback, though, which is always useful. </p>
<p>Speaking of mags, it looks like <em>Apex Science Fiction and Horror</em> may be on its way to small-press heaven. The editor says he needs 200 new subscribers in order to pay off a debt to the printer, and I had to admit I just don&#8217;t see that happening. It&#8217;s not that <em>Apex</em> is a bad mag (I once subscribed to it, and although I didn&#8217;t care for the stories, the production values were top-notch), but 200 is a big number in the small-press world, and he needs it in two weeks! </p>
<p>Fortunately, I don&#8217;t have any stories sitting with them, so I don&#8217;t have to worry about getting something accepted only to have the mag go belly-up. It happens, folks, quite often, and it&#8217;s never a pretty picture. It is, in fact, the ultimate tease. <em>We love your story and we&#8217;d love to publish it… buuuut, we&#8217;re going out of business.</em></p>
<p><em>Apex</em> does seem to be inching toward its goal, at least according to the editor&#8217;s blog. The part I don&#8217;t understand, though, are the visitors who are buying subscriptions although they have never seen the magazine before. I have never believed in the whole <em>Support the small press!</em> battle-cry. I prefer to support the <em>good</em> small press and let the bad stuff die its own death. This isn&#8217;t the United Way, and mags shouldn&#8217;t be blinded supported just because they need the support. If it&#8217;s a quality publication with a strong following, the rally should come without fanfare (of course, one could say that if it’s a quality mag with a strong following, it shouldn&#8217;t need the rally in the first place, but hey, shit happens). </p>
<p><em>Apex</em> is a decent mag, even though I didn&#8217;t happen to dig the content, so if anyone here likes science fiction, or sf-horror, they might want to check out their website and buy a subscription. </p>
<p>(I figured I&#8217;d mention this in the comments section rather than devote a whole journal entry to it.)</p>
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		<title>By: AllyBird</title>
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		<dc:creator>AllyBird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true Ian. Especially about &quot;sickeningly sweet,&quot; comments. I know how you feel about boards but I quite like the Ramsey Campbell board.It does get heated in there but I wouldn&#039;t expect anything else from a horror board. I feel it should reflect a little of the fact that the world is not a perfect place and we don&#039;t have to be nice all the time. I know it can go too far but it souldn&#039;t be Disneyworld.com
I just got a rejection that had rejection stamped all over it - I&#039;m developing a thick skin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true Ian. Especially about &#8220;sickeningly sweet,&#8221; comments. I know how you feel about boards but I quite like the Ramsey Campbell board.It does get heated in there but I wouldn&#8217;t expect anything else from a horror board. I feel it should reflect a little of the fact that the world is not a perfect place and we don&#8217;t have to be nice all the time. I know it can go too far but it souldn&#8217;t be Disneyworld.com<br />
I just got a rejection that had rejection stamped all over it &#8211; I&#8217;m developing a thick skin.</p>
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		<title>By: The Writer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a good idea, Ally. 

The sale figures of the smaller mags is a fairly big unknown. It&#039;s hard to know just how popular a mag really is. Even if they sell a lot of copies, it doesn&#039;t necessarily mean the word is getting out. It&#039;s like the anthologies where the contributors are paid only royalties, but they get a discount on copies for themselves. So they buy 20, 50, 100 copies, and then the royalty check comes in the mail, and wow! look at all the money I made! Welllll, not really. Some of it is your money, and the rest is mostly from the other writers in the antho who have done the same thing. In essence, they&#039;re paying each other. 

One of the things that irk me about this are the reviews that invariably come afterwards by the contributors or friends of the contributors. The reviews aren&#039;t really reviews as much as they are advertisements for the book, talking about how great it is, how every story is fantastic, and how so-and-so is going to be the Next Big Thing. The only criticism is usually that the book/mag ever had to end! Part of the reason for this is the writers become so friendly with each other that they leave all of their critical, unbiased opinions at the door. No one wants to say anything bad about anyone, so every story ends up being &quot;wonderful&quot; and &quot;strikingly original&quot; and &quot;ground-breaking&quot;, etc. 

It&#039;s so sickeningly sweet and rather unprofessional, and it certainly doesn&#039;t make me want to buy a copy of the book/mag. And it somewhat skews the sales figures because you don&#039;t really know if ordinary readers are buying the mag or if it&#039;s just the contributors. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a good idea, Ally. </p>
<p>The sale figures of the smaller mags is a fairly big unknown. It&#8217;s hard to know just how popular a mag really is. Even if they sell a lot of copies, it doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean the word is getting out. It&#8217;s like the anthologies where the contributors are paid only royalties, but they get a discount on copies for themselves. So they buy 20, 50, 100 copies, and then the royalty check comes in the mail, and wow! look at all the money I made! Welllll, not really. Some of it is your money, and the rest is mostly from the other writers in the antho who have done the same thing. In essence, they&#8217;re paying each other. </p>
<p>One of the things that irk me about this are the reviews that invariably come afterwards by the contributors or friends of the contributors. The reviews aren&#8217;t really reviews as much as they are advertisements for the book, talking about how great it is, how every story is fantastic, and how so-and-so is going to be the Next Big Thing. The only criticism is usually that the book/mag ever had to end! Part of the reason for this is the writers become so friendly with each other that they leave all of their critical, unbiased opinions at the door. No one wants to say anything bad about anyone, so every story ends up being &quot;wonderful&quot; and &quot;strikingly original&quot; and &quot;ground-breaking&quot;, etc. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s so sickeningly sweet and rather unprofessional, and it certainly doesn&#8217;t make me want to buy a copy of the book/mag. And it somewhat skews the sales figures because you don&#8217;t really know if ordinary readers are buying the mag or if it&#8217;s just the contributors.</p>
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